Krashen in Schools 4

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6 thoughts on “Krashen in Schools 4”

  1. In Breckenridge one morning you were headed out on the bike and you introduced me to this “badass dude” as you called him…the guy who uses L2 from day one. I think his name was Ruben? It was a very brief conversation since y’all were rolling on by, but ever since then I have been intrigued and curious about how he does this from day one level one. Clearly he creates a culture where “this is just what we do.” Have you visited his classes ever? Is there any way we could get an inside look at this?

  2. No, he just does it. He doesn’t speak English. It’s all French. Diana told him to avoid using L1, and he came in and just did it. No more complex than that. Thus the term badass dude. Reuben Vyn.

  3. Andrea Westphal

    I’m fully aware of the detrimental effects English has on class. After you let it in once, it finds its way back time and time again until it becomes too hard to enforce limits on its use. Next year I am going to try and start off using L2 from day one and see how it goes. Of course I’ll clarify meaning by writing. I’m hoping that it will change the culture of my classes. If all they hear is French from day one, then maybe CI will feel less like a game to them and become more authentic. I’ve tried to use TPRS/CI for four years now. I am admittedly terrible at its implementation, but that does not mean I’m going to throw in the towel. I’ve been tempted, but I know it my heart that Krashen has it right. I know that if I start teaching direct and indirect object pronouns by name that I will lose the majority of my kids. Not only that, they might begin to dislike languages because they don’t understand and “can’t” do it.

  4. Andrea Westphal

    Furthermore, I think I finally get that we can’t put CI in a box. What Ben said last week, that the stories need to drive the structure, really resonates with me. Finally, I’m giving up on trying to force a TPRS “curriculum.”

    1. That is a big shift for most of us, Andrea, so you are to be congratulated. My guess is that 90% (at least) of people claiming to do CI try to fit it into some kind of “curriculum”. It can’t be done. So good on you!

      1. Andrea Westphal

        I wanted to make it fit so badly, just so I could have peace of mind – something to show my admins, “Hey look, we’re using this book and following these structures, blah, blah, blah.” Over the course of four years I tried implementing and reimplementing different curriculums only to be reminded of why I dropped it in the first place. They were so unauthentic and kids just didn’t connect to any of the stories. Next year I plan on using Matava’s and Tripp’s scripts and writing my own too. I am really going to try and make it to San Diego this summer. I’m in dire need of the comradery.

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