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https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/moretprs/conversations/topics/147777
I don’t want to bad mouth anyone or dispute the validity of Musicuentos, especially them being so varied, but Sara-Elizabeth Cottrell has been quite outspoken against TPRS. I’ve noted that she is disagreeable on Mixlr during Tea with BvP, and I’m fairly certain she sent in the question last week asking “why do we apply SLA research to the classroom when we can’t be sure acquisition occurs there,” to which Bill responded by saying that of course acquisition occurs if students receive CI.
Anyway, again, I don’t want to be negative but it just seems like a camp I don’t want to be a part of. Anyone else have similar thoughts, or have I mixed something up?
Lance, see what was written in that moreTPRS thread I linked. There will be inherent biases of the contributors to Musicuentos that affect the literature chosen, which parts of the article to highlight, and their interpretation.
The reason SEC annoys the hell out of me is because she doesn’t quite “get it” and needs more education and experience, but instead of demonstrating humility, she has self-appointed herself a “voice” on matters she herself does not understand! I guess, we don’t know what we don’t know.
When people make that claim that “we don’t have time for acquisition” it reveals their ignorance. Acquisition of course can happen anytime you comprehend input. What they intend to say is that “we don’t have time to make someone fluent and advanced.” That being true does not mean there is any other way to get them fluent and advanced besides the process of acquisition. No shortcuts. Unless you would crazily reason that the goal has got to be advanced or it’s not worth it and then you’d rather have kids learn about the mechanics of language and not acquire nor develop much proficiency at all.
A Google search for “TPRS demo” comes up with this as the second hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJlgSrBBzxU
I remember finding it on a database of videos sent by someone on moreTPRS early in my CI pursuit. I voiced some concerns that it was not TPRS at all, then found out about her “what I hate about TPRS” blog post. I realize this is all old news for many, but also important to remember when choosing sources, for the bias-ism Eric mentioned.
I’ve had a few rounds of email with SEC and find her approach to be very solidly grounded in Content-related FLES. Teacher decides the trad’l thematic curriculum, and teaches it with lots of activities, pair-work, scripted dialogues and the like.
She seems to belief in ‘proof’ of acquisition: what the kids can SAY and DO, as opposed to what they understand.
I believe her background is in linguistics, but that doesn’t mean her classroom practices stem from it…