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8 thoughts on “Just Talk to the Kids”
“This is what the internet has done, brought us the ability to share ideas. Any young teacher who is fortunate enough to study Krashen and Mason early in their career is very fortunate.”
I am currently reading Krashen’s article on Language Shyness for my heritage speakers. It is mind blowing.
I love this idea. I just wish that I could get my higher ups to understand this. Our schools/district is so tied to an outlined plan with tenses/structures/vocabulary learned at a certain time that I still feel very alone and when I try to introduce this way of teaching others brush me off. We KNOW that CI is best, but it seems too many are so tied to a curriculum map and test scores that there is so much joy and acquisition lost in the process. I don’t want to spend 30 years tied to a curriculum map that separates all tenses and targets vocabulary lists by theme. I am grateful for this group…if I were alone right now I’d probably already have gone back to a text book too.
If the other teachers in your district actually had to show what kids could do extemporaneously three or four months after they “learned” it and without “studying their notes” first, your method would be the clear winner. Hands down.
Right. When the kids are asked to actually show something real (not fabricated via memorization) then they fail. My son Luca came home for lunch today and asked what was for lunch. I said in my limited Spanish, “Como tu quieres”. He has an A in the class, but no matter how many times or how slowly I said it, he had no idea.
Ben I don’t get your reference to BVP here. Can you pls explain?
‘On top of that, no people I ever met seemed to share my conviction that teaching a language is really meant to be a very joyful experience. But, as they say, better late than never…. And no, I am not a VanPatten fan. Thank you for asking.’
Some people (parents, their kids, adminz) are very afraid of joy in the classroom. They think it’s a sign of ease/leniency. Some parents have taught their kids that only rigor and challenge are good – and to be on the lookout for ease/pleasure in class – cuz it means the teacher ain’t earning her keep. I believe it was that perfect storm of the economic debacle in ’08 combined with all the NCLB BS that landed us here….
I have heard him speak in Chattanooga and in other places. What he said was all so scientific, rich in data, all caught up in the mind, but teaching is so much more than that. I give him credit for saying in very data-specific terms what Krashen says, but what is so impressive about that? I know that VP has made significant contributions, but I just don’t like how actual teaching, the actual skills and strategies of teaching, don’t get much attention in his work.
I didnt realize this as i sometimes get into his program online. It would be much better to make things concrete with strategies that deliver compelling input.
Ahh. Yes I glaze over with the technical mumbo jumbo, too.