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11 thoughts on “Thoughts on Building Community”
Yes, it is great that ACTFL published BVP’s book but is anyone paying attention? They have a book coming out soon on “instructional strategies”. I looked up the authors- they are all textbook writers. I doubt they will even mention TPRS. The problem with ACTFL is they don’t take a position on anything so anyone can quote their materials to support what they want to support.
They had a Twitter post recently on “how do you incorporate authentic materials into all levels”. I replied to the tweet asking for the research that supports it should be “authentic” rather than level appropriate. *CRICKETS* on that one.
My students will pick Señor Wooly any day over reading some boring literature like “magic realism” or something like that. Not to mention that they say “modify the task, not the text”. MM-kay, so let’s have the kids highlight all the verbs in an Isabel Allende excerpt. Hey! Great! We are using AUTHENTIC resources, yay!!
I’ve never quite grasped ACTFL It has the chameleon qualities but I never heard it said so well until this from Greg above:
…the problem with ACTFL is they don’t take a position on anything so anyone can quote their materials to support what they want to support….
That explains how they have been able to avoid outing the textbook companies during the same period of 50 years when Krashen and others were providing research that blasted those companies out of the water. Thus we see how a corporation supports other corporations by not really taking a stand on anything. The mental suffering caused by such a refusal to align w the research is ACTFL’s karma and I wouldn’t want it. I’m talking about Paul Sandrock and those folks with whom we in this PLC have gone head to head with on their site in the past – and we won the argument hands down but they didn’t move off their position. And their conferences suck.
It is so true. They need those paying members to keep the ship afloat. It’s a business, just like any other. But slowly the Titanic turns. I was looking at this “core practices” document the other day and the first one is CI. A step in the right direction but the other shit they gum it up with makes it where they can straddle the divide. Actually I guess if you think about it, that is talent. And then they have their national convention where I am sure a few traditional refugees jump ship to CI each year when they see where the real smilin’ is happening…so maybe it’s not too bad.
Honestly those conventions are very poor experiences. Thousands of ACTFL’s member (18,000) who never post on their own Language Educators site, never talk, just join with payment from school funds, to feel like they are being involved in their profession but are tools for the cartels, walking around in big buildings with each session having about 15 ppl in each one (they divide and conquer and create the illusion of something happening), while the real action is in the selling of books and computer programs. It’s big business. Few interesting sessions. I have always admired those among the TPRS/CI crowd who presented there.
Yeah it’s funny that probably the only good conference they had (I had some teacher acquaintences who went) was last year’s with BVP and Krashen as keynote. TPRS Books and Fluency Matters were also there.
Looks like they are back to boring keynotes this year.
There are some ways in which Paul Sandrock and Laura Terrill say some things to support us. (TPRS is mentioned in Terrill’s book), but their whole model focuses on grammar and vocab memorization —> practice activities——> Forced output
I was so disappointed when Grant Boulanger did not get the teacher of the year award. Actually last year there was only one non-CI teacher in the last round and SHE got the award. I think something is going on there!
Greg, I like the formula you created for the traditional model. By contrast the Natural Approach model focuses on comprehensible input —> student created stories and readings —> unforced output
Summing up the method this way provides a clear, concise way to explain to admin and colleagues what it is we are doing. Something really powerful here is the fact that the Natural Approach model is more equitable whereas the traditional model is not.
Yes, the Old Guard and the ACTFL Whiz Kids who don’t really know the research* are hanging on for dear life. They can’t just let Blaine win!
*they may know it but don’t “get” it. Plus, there is the role that the corporate textbook lobby plays in ACTFL. I can’t remember exactly but I recall once two summers ago Krashen telling me that the textbook industry is at $1.3 billion. I must have heard him wrong. But there has always been a textbook thing w ACTFL. Look at their conferences – it’s all about selling. Look at Mimi Met and Helena Curtain giving conferences literally and you can’t make stuff like this up on how to use Realidades in your classroom as a general one day “language training” for districts around the country. The history of ACTFL is a good example of what Greg said above of our profession. Someone should write a book. People who weren’t around here on the blog five years ago know that we as a PLC went through some ugly online contact with them. You can search Helena Curtain on this blog, or ACTFL, for more but it’s not worth it because the model they had in place since the 1960’s is disintegrating rapidly. It’s like too many teachers nationally are running around gleefully kicking their sand castles down while they nervously try to stop them.
Ben, it’s this kind of scam on the public (public taxpayer dollars ending up in the corporate textbook industry) that stokes your fire to speak out about best practices. Keep it up on Facebook. I don’t think those who criticize you fully appreciate the injustice going on.
Man that Helena Curtain thing was the worst. She is so insulated by the corporations. I think that she and Mimi Met made hundreds of thousands of dollars traveling all over the world talking about different textbooks over many years, and they were all billed as “trainings” usually on the district level.
Sean you have read all the discussion, but any new readers her who want an eyeful on this topic can just used the search bar here to look up either of those names.
Here is one of many, many articles, this one from 2010:
https://benslavic.com/blog/realidades/
I went to Karen Rowan’s session at NTPRS and she said that she was denied various times to speak at ACTFL. She got in this year because she entitled her Reader’s Theatre presentation “Teaching el Quijote in the early levels”.
By the way, her Realidades TPRS ancillaries have some good aspects to them. They were definitely worth the $4 shipping included I got them for on Amazon.
She has a really good explanation of the steps of TPRS in there. The stories are kind of boring though because she had to conform to the textbook vocab topics. I looked at them the other day and said GREAT!!! Now I have some readings to do with my Grammar Soufleé class!
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A title for this book one of us is going to write about ACTFL and foreign language textbooks: How to Waste a Ton of Your School’s Money and Not Piss Anyone Off.